Cindy:
First, Happy New Year, and I hope you have a year full of health, love and peace.
Here's something Ed will never tell you, but of course I will , because I'm a big-mouth:-) AZIPA has been supported by
stealthmode.com for over a year. Ed is the ultimate AZIPA volunteer, spending days and days administering AZIPA, trying
to make it right. There are alsocosts that you never think about: printing flyers, entering people's cards in the database of
the announce list, buying gas to run around town distributing those flyers, etc. Then there are human costs: time spent
finding places to meet, deposits given to those places when necessary, renting microphones, yada. Unfortunately, we've
found that you can't run a group for nothing, because there are certain hard costs that have to be paid. Those add up to
several thousand dollars a year, even in the current locations and formats.
I have never liked Club Rio as a meeting place, and as a board member, I've been trying to find a new place for over a
year. I've been a professional event planner in the past, I know a fair number of places, but when you look at them for
AZIPA, they don't work. And if they do, they're not free! That's why we're in Club Rio, and that's why the showcases with
no speakers. Club Rio has a hideous sound system, and so did Bash on Ash, and so did the Tempe Senior Center. Only
the City of Phoenix had a good place for us, and no one wanted to go there because it was downtown. The month we
went to Web Theatre cost $5,000, paid for by the Downtown Phoenix Partnership, which refused to pay again.
What are people buying? I hope they are buying the network, and the synergy of being with other technology people,
and the effort Ed and AZIPA have made to build a respected technology community here in Arizona. People have built
their own careers around AZIPA: two prominent examples might be Rob Goble, who helps numerous people on the list in
a generous and knowledgeable way, and Jonathan Keyser, who has taken it upon himself to be a real estate guru for
techies. I hope these people join the discussion (off list, please) and attest to AZIPA's value. Likewise, they add enormous
value to the group. As does everybody who answers questions about SQL, HTML, mobile carriers, etc.
Ed has agonized about charging anything for AZIPA. But $10 is about what some people spend a day for cigarettes,
wine, or parking. To spend it once a month for a valuable network of business contacts is cheap at twice the price. Every
other networking group I belong to has a dinner, a lunch, whatever, that ends up costing $50 for food you don't want.
I would love to hear your suggestions for a place to meet, and then I, who love speakers, will get us plenty of them!
Namaste,
Francine
Francine Hardaway, Ph.D.
http://www.stealthmode.com
602,331.0997
francine@stealthmode.com
12/30/2000 3:07:28 AM, "Cindy Fox" <cindyfox@azcts.com> wrote:
>What is the money required for? What will it pay for?
>
>As far as I am aware, Club Rio does not charge. They make their money on
>food sales. I, for one, would be glad to volunteer to help if needed. I
>understood the web site to be run by volunteers.
>
>You talk on the fee page about new people "trying before they buy." What
>are they buying?
>
>Call me cheap, I just like to see where the money goes...
>
>Will there be no old formats - only Showcases? Guess that solves it for me.
>:) I won't be coming. Borrrrring. :)
>
>Showcases are great... occaissionally. But if that is all AZIPA is now,
>then I guess I'll wait until something new comes along.
>
>I would be glad to pay for admission to hear good speakers, panels, talks,
>or join in a moderated roundtable, but I'm dissapointed by the recent string
>of "Showcases."
>
>I hope other options become available.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Cindy Fox
>Computer Training Solutions
>www.azcts.com
>www.cindyfox.com
>(602) 692-8923
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Arizona Internet Professionals Association" <egroups@azipa.com>
>To: <azipa-announce@egroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 1:06 AM
>Subject: [azipa-announce] *** Important AZIPA Update (and New Year Tidings!)
>***
>
>
>> Season's Greetings from the Arizona Internet Professionals
>> Association!
>>
>> With the New Year right around the corner, many of us,
>> including us here at AZIPA, have taken some time to reflect
>> upon the past and the future...
>>
>> With the mission of being the catalyst to bring the
>> Arizona internet community closer together so as to help
>> enable it to do great things, we have always tried to keep
>> the threshold for participation as low as possible.
>>
>> Thus, for well over two years now, AZIPA has never charged
>> fees or dues of any kind.
>>
>> But, this has obviously also limited what we can do as
>> a group and as a community.
>>
>> Thus, while keeping the option of no fees for
>> participation as a very integral part of AZIPA (so that
>> no one is ever barred due to financial reasons), we
>> will start requesting completely optional and voluntary
>> fees for participation in AZIPA activities.
>>
>> Please see http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa for full
>> details.
>>
>> Thank you, and may you and yours have a very prosperous
>> and Happy New Year!
>>
>> AZIPA
>> http://www.azipa.org
>> Arizona Internet Professionals Association
>>
>>
>> ==========================================================
>>
>>
>> AZIPA - Arizona Internet Professionals Association
>>
>> Please be sure to RSVP! http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa
>>
>>
>> INVITATION
>> ~~~~~~~~~~
>> Invitation to AZIPA Monthly Event - Monday, January 22nd.
>>
>> Stop by right after work for Happy Hour food and beverage!
>> Doors open at 5:30pm. Location info is below.
>>
>> Please freely extend this invitation to others who may
>> also be interested.
>>
>> Please be sure to RSVP! http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa
>>
>>
>> WHO ATTENDS?
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> If they are involved in the New Economy and do internet
>> related stuff (or work with those who do!), then you
>> will find them at AZIPA...
>>
>> Entrepreneurs, Tech People, Angel Investors, Newspaper
>> Reporters, Venture Capitalists, Business Types, Service
>> Providers, Consultants, Programmers, Designers, Coders,
>> Network Dude(tte)s, System Admins, Linux Heads,
>> Government Representatives, Marketing and Sales Gurus,
>> Recent Grads, Accountants, Lawyers, Webmasters,
>> Educators, Students, Graphic Artists, Hardware Pros,
>> Journalists, Economic Development Departments, Job
>> Seekers, Employers, Suppliers, Customers, Partners, etc.
>>
>>
>> THANK YOU TO THIS MONTH'S AZIPA SPONSORS AND SUPPORTERS!
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> stealthmode.com - http://www.stealthmode.com
>> Greenberg Traurig, LLP - http://www.gtlaw.com
>> Business Journal of Phoenix -
>> http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix
>> Opnix - http://www.opnix.com
>>
>>
>> THIS MONTH'S EVENT
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> This month's event will be an AZIPA Company Showcase
>> - which is a great way to see some of the really cool
>> and useful internet related stuff that is happening
>> right here in Arizona - and find potential partners,
>> customers, employees, investors, suppliers, affiliates,
>> employers, etc, etc, etc.
>>
>> We have over 50 great companies in this month's AZIPA
>> Showcase!
>>
>> Note that a preference is given to industry companies
>> that have not participated before - so there is always
>> something new and different to come and see and
>> discover! For a list of companies and organizations
>> who have requested Showcase space and/or have
>> participated in prior AZIPA Company Showcases, see
>> http://www.azipa.org/meetings.html
>>
>> Please be sure to RSVP! http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa
>>
>> If your company is interested in participating in a
>> future AZIPA Company Showcase, please sign up as
>> soon as possible (space fills up incredibly fast!)
>> http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa
>>
>> Suggestions on possible future speakers or events?
>> Send an email to our Speakers Committee
>> <mailto:speak@azipa.org>
>>
>> Interested in sponsoring future AZIPA events? First,
>> check out the options at http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa.
>> If you are interested in something that is not listed,
>> then please send an email with your request to our
>> Sponsors Committee <mailto:sponsor@azipa.org>. Thanks!
>>
>>
>> LOCATION OF THIS MONTH'S EVENT
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> WHERE: Club Rio - 430 N. Scottsdale Road in Tempe -
>> on the west side of Scottsdale Road, just south
>> of Route 202 and just north of Tempe Town Lake
>> (Rio Salado / Salt River).
>>
>> Please be sure to RSVP! http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa
>>
>> (If the line map below is in disarray, please view
>> with a mono/single spaced font)
>>
>> |
>> ___________________________|_______Route 202
>> |
>> |
>> <_____<_____<___|
>> _________ |
>> Parking | | |
>> Parking | CLUB | | Scottsdale Road
>> Parking * RIO | | (/ Rural Road)
>> Parking |_______| |
>> |
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~
>> ~~~~~ Tempe Town Lake ~~~~~|~~~~~~~~
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~
>> |
>>
>> See http://www.azipa.org/meetings.html for a more
>> detailed map (* is Club Rio Main Entrance)
>>
>>
>> AZIPA NUMBERS
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> 2000+ Arizona internet professionals are currently
>> subscribed to the AZIPA email Discussion List (see
>> below) and 7500+ Arizona internet professionals are
>> on the general Announcement List. The first AZIPA
>> meeting was held in September of 1998 - thus we are
>> now well over two years old! Our recent monthly
>> events have averaged 600+ attendees.
>>
>>
>> AZIPA DISCUSSION MAIL LIST
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Whether you can make it to our events or not, be
>> sure to sign up for our Discussion Mail List - it
>> is 2000+ other Arizona internet professionals
>> helping each other do great internet related things
>> in Arizona each and every day!
>>
>> Subscribe at http://www.egroups.com/group/azipa
>>
>>
>> AZIPA ANNOUNCEMENT LIST
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> If you did not receive this email directly from AZIPA,
>> please be sure to add yourself to our low frequency
>> email Announcement List (usually 2-3 emails a month)
>> so that you can be sure to receive the latest meeting
>> time and location information directly from the source!
>> <mailto:meetings@azipa.org>
>>
>> To be removed from this general announcement list, simply
>> reply with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.
>>
>>
>> MARK YOUR CALENDARS NOW!
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> AZIPA monthly events for 2001 are tentatively scheduled
>> for the evenings of:
>>
>> Monday, January 22
>> Monday, February 26
>> Monday, March 26
>> Monday, April 23
>> Monday, May 21 (Third Monday)
>> Monday, June 25
>> Monday, July 23
>> Monday, August 27
>> Monday, September 24
>> Monday, October 22
>> Monday, November 12 (Second Monday)
>> Monday, December 10 (Second Monday)
>>
>> All meetings start at 5:30pm and are usually the fourth
>> Monday of each month (except for the third Monday in May
>> and second Mondays in November and December so as to
>> avoid conflicts with holidays). As dates and locations
>> are subject to change, please be sure to sign up for our
>> low frequency (2-3 emails a month) email Announcement
>> List so as to make sure to get the very latest updates
>> directly from the source! <mailto:meetings@azipa.org>
>>
>>
>> AZIPA WHAT AND WHY
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Get Together - Learn Together - Work Together
>>
>> AZIPA is the catalyst for people doing internet related
>> work in Arizona to get together, learn together, work
>> together, and do great internet related things together.
>>
>> AZIPA is purposely cross-functional (business, technology,
>> art, finance, law, education, government, etc, etc, etc...)
>> so as to enable people to do great internet related things
>> in Arizona - no matter what they may be...
>>
>> There are many people involved in internet related
>> careers and businesses here in Arizona - but nowhere
>> near the critical mass found in Silicon Valley where
>> you can go into almost any bar or coffee shop and be
>> able to talk Net and Web and spark that great idea,
>> start a new company, find that new employee/employer/
>> subcontractor/supplier/customer/investor/etc.
>>
>> AZIPA's goal is to help bring the Arizona internet
>> community closer together to help create our own
>> critical mass.
>>
>> You are cordially invited to join us in building a
>> stronger community of Internet professionals here
>> in Arizona.
>>
>> Hope to see you at the next meeting!
>>
>> Please be sure to RSVP! http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa
>>
>> Arizona Internet Professionals Association - AZIPA
>> http://www.azipa.org -- mailto:info@azipa.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>==AZIPA=============================================================
>Arizona Internet Professionals Association http://www.azipa.org
>Next AZIPA monthly meeting is 5:30pm on Monday, January 22nd, 2001
> Please be sure to RSVP! http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa
>Other upcoming events:
> Tempe Tech Oasis Techie Tuesday - 6:00pm, Tuesday 1/9/01
> Beeloe's Cafe & Bar, 501 S. Mill Ave Tempe (SE corner of 5th)
> Strategic Research Institute Web Launch BootCamp - 1/30-2/2/01
> http://www.srinstitute.com/cx326
>=============================================================AZIPA==
>
>
==AZIPA=============================================================
Arizona Internet Professionals Association http://www.azipa.org
Next AZIPA monthly meeting is 5:30pm on Monday, January 22nd, 2001
Please be sure to RSVP! http://www.acteva.com/go/azipa
Other upcoming events:
Tempe Tech Oasis Techie Tuesday - 6:00pm, Tuesday 1/9/01
Beeloe's Cafe & Bar, 501 S. Mill Ave Tempe (SE corner of 5th)
Strategic Research Institute Web Launch BootCamp - 1/30-2/2/01
http://www.srinstitute.com/cx326
=============================================================AZIPA==
